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  Beards galore at the Assembly

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, at our recent assembly, i noticed that there were quite a lot of brothers wearing beards.

  not just the older dudes, but right across a range of ages, young men, middle aged men and older men.

  is watchtower beginning to relax this rule at last?

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  Haha! That is hilaaaaaaaaaaaaarious! "Doctor's Note" Haha!

  Good for them!
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  Video: 607 & 1914 Why These Dates Matter to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a great video.

  i think it's his best work so far.

  everything you ever wanted to know about 607 in 30 minutes.

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  When 1914 is wrong, the slave is gone!

  1914 and the article the WT printed in 2011 was the tipping point for me.

  What is the most important thing about the date 1914?

  If 1914 is wrong, there cannot be any slave that was appointed in 1919.

  Just because "generations overlap" or "Jehovah is letting more people come into the truth".... or "it doesn't matter to me how long he let's this system continue".....

  When 1914 is wrong, the slave is gone.
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  Article: "Thousands Stranded In Greek Border Camp Have Nowhere To Go" (Guess who shows up daily at the camp?)

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greece-refugee-camp-border_56707278e4b0fccee1703e8f.

  this is what it states in the middle of the article:.

  "around the idomeni camp, canteens have mushroomed to sell food to the refugees.

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  I read the entire article, and did find it interesting that the most JWs are attempting to do is set up stands.. hoping to place literature... so sad.

  All of these refugees have been through very difficult times, and need practical help.

  It's interesting that they mention NGO's (from the UN?) there to "help"... Wasn't the WT an NGO in the past?
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  Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation

  by kaik in

  1. social
  2. family

  my mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.

  so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.

  nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.

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  cha ching

  Thx Kaik, I am hoping that something fraudulent money wise will happen, or become visible, because... as you say, sometimes it's only money that might wake them up! We'll take it, right?!?
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  Reveal News: How Jehovah’s Witness leaders are responding to child abuse scrutiny by Trey Bundy

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-jehovahs-witness-leaders-are-responding-to-child-abuse-scrutiny/.

  by trey bundy .

  december 14, 2015 .

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  cha ching

  So true, Listener, a LOT of JW's have no idea what is going on...

  No Candace Conti, no ARC, just "it something that happens everywhere"
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  Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation

  by kaik in

  1. social
  2. family

  my mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.

  so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.

  nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.

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  cha ching

  Thank you, kaik.... I was very interested to know how life was in other countries... I wondered, maybe, if elders had just decided to start doing things differently, asking for $$$....

  You used the term "overseer", and although it is used for Circuit Overseer, this term was used long ago in USA as a word for "elder."... So, I thought maybe, since your mom was irritated, saying "Why doesn't he work for himself" that he was actually an elder (not a CO).... Especially after you told us the story about the problems in Prague..

  I thought, 'Hey, maybe CZ became isolated, they did not know what it was like in other countries, and some men took advantage of that and told the bro's and sisters that they had to support the elders... ???? You never know, right?

  Thanks for the insight!

  cha ching
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  Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation

  by kaik in

  1. social
  2. family

  my mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.

  so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.

  nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.

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  I am wondering, Kaik, if it is simply a language miscommunication, or... Are Elders supported by the congregation? Do congregations cook for elders all the time? That does not happen in USA....

  Or, is this "overseer" that comes around a circuit overseer?

  Either way, it sounds like Czech has a few "rules of its own"? Is this a repeat of the Bethel adventure there?
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  Urgent - Need source material for 1975

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  real quick, i need the quote from a book that says that in the 1970s the young ones wouldn't grow old and die.

  to not go to uni and to spend time preaching.

  it has a picture of young ones in it.... if anyone can get this to me asap that would be awesome!.

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  cha ching

  Ding, never a jw, twice for emphasis! I was 14 in 1969, & remember reading this..... I did not go to college. Thx WT!
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  The KEY WORD in Isaiah 44:25-26 is "Predictions" and the apostles NEVER made any predictions setting dates.

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  isaiah 44:25-26, i am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, and i am the one who makes diviners act like fools; the one confounding the wise men and turning their knowledge into foolishness; the one making the word of his servant come true and completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers.

  the record shows your words and many predictions did not come true.

  again, the key word in isaiah 44:25-26 is "predictions" and the apostles never made any predictions ever.

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  Thx for all that hard work!

  Cha Ching
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  1994 Awake Cover RE: Children Dying NO BLOOD

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  we came across this youtube video, from a year ago... i thought this guy did a great job!.

  i have been trying to find a way to approach this subject with relatives.

  after you watch this, let me know: .

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  cha ching

  Good summary, DesignerStubble, as you were posting, I was trying to do a summary also, ;-)

  At 15 minutes in, he starts talking “Bible” as JW’s claim, “nobody knows the Bible better than JW’s do”… Leviticus & Acts are read, and these are given the explanation, "let's just say God is protecting people’s health from invisible bacteria, etc."

  16 minutes: He then asks us to just ‘assume’ just for argument sake, that Jehovah actually made a direct command against blood transfusions in the old law testament, and goes to Matthew 12, when the disciples plucked grain on the Sabbath.

  17 minutes: When the Pharisees objected, Jesus brought out that David ate bread from the temple, the priests profane the Sabbath, but are not guilty, IF YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT THIS MEANS, I desire mercy, not sacrifice… and something greater than the temple is here, “you would not have condemned the guiltless”,

  The legalistic Pharisees, (sound familiar) were complaining that the disciples weren’t following the Law. Jesus said, ‘look, David broke the Sabbath Law, and he wasn’t’ guilty’ Why? His men were hungry.. So which is more important? Legalism? or the needs of the people?

  Mark 3, the man with the withered hand… the Pharisees watched to make sure the law was not broken (cured on the Sabbath). Jesus asks “is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm? to “save a life? or to kill?”

  18 minutes: Even tho it was against what the Pharisees pronounced as righteous, Jesus thought it was better to save a life…. The Pharisees met to see how to kill Jesus for not following their legal rules! (Maybe today, it would be death by disfellowshipping?)

  19 minutes: Luke 14 Jesus is dining with Pharisees, a man had dropsy… he healed him. “Which of you having a son or an ox fall into a hole, will not immediately pull him out?” They could not reply to these things.

  Why do your leaders care less about JW children than oxen? According to the law, you are suppose to save your oxen, but according to JW’s not your children?

  ‘More people have died following this JW blood teaching than died at Marshal Applewhite, at Heaven’s Gate… David Koresh of the Davidian’s, Jim Jone’s of People’s Temple combined.’

  Now that is a staggering reality…..